Curse

tlee · Feb 22, 2010, 03:51 AM // 03:51

I'm a sin/ranger right now.

Made all my 3 heroes (and including me) (vekk, Ogden, MOX) into rangers. Equipped all of them with ignite arrow+dual shot+forked arrow + distract shot + an elite(Either poison arrow or burning arrow) + 3 level 20 elder pets and a few pet skills.

PVE in faction is quite easy with some henchies. Ignite arrow makes mobs scatter and run around since it's an AOE.

Useful since it keeps away from the death explosions (most of the time) the afflicted mobs give off after death..

angelic spud · Feb 22, 2010, 04:57 AM // 04:57

I would really suggest at least using ranger heroes.

Zodiac Meteor · Feb 22, 2010, 07:01 AM // 07:01

I like my teams life expectancy to be more than 5 minutes. Rangers with bows is fine, but Odgen, Vekk and MOX...

3 Hero Rangers works fine, but there is better builds.

IronSheik · Feb 22, 2010, 07:06 AM // 07:06

3 rangers with orders ebon battle stand and favorable winds can be good.

But...rangers...not..eles..monks..dervs

HigherMinion · Feb 22, 2010, 11:42 AM // 11:42

Well, as a MoP nuker I used three ranger heroes with Dual-shot bound to a key on my number pad, and when I barbs/MoP something, the spike from dual-shot is hilarious.

But... Why did you give THEM bows? They are not worthy of bow wielding!

TalanRoarer · Feb 22, 2010, 12:09 PM // 12:09

Sometimes using a secondary proffesion more than your main works well. This however won't. Stick to using your heroes primary proffesions for the time being, you'll find out that it'll work much smoother than using them as Rangers.

upier · Feb 22, 2010, 12:49 PM // 12:49

I would argue that based on the selection of heroes, these guys seem to be his first or even ONLY heroes he has access to. So crappy builds can be expected.
Still, I would look at running Veky, Dunks, Gwen (or better yet - since you have MOX it's clear you have all campaigns so I'd jump to Nightfall and do the starting quests and then at least pick up Oli) and you stick to what you feel like doing - either running a bow or go run a dagger assassin. The benefit of going to Nightfall is that you'll advance your Sunspear title allowing you to use Critical Agility.
What you'd want to do though is put Splinter Weapon on at least one of the guys - I normally run spirit spam on my monks until I get a ritualist. Use your normal channeling/smiting hybrid, but modified for a monk primary (Signet of Spirits, Bloodsong, Spirit Syphon, Ancestor's Rage, Strength Of Honor, Smiter's Boon, Smite Hex, Reversal Of Damage). It gives you some nice options and it will work out nicely for starters.
Veky can be a normal fire ele.
And then Oli (your average Minion master or a Minion Bomber) or Gwen (Gwen can easily be a fasting curser - Barbs, Enfeebling Blood, Shadow Of Fear, Defile Defenses, Rip Enchantment, Tease, Power Drain, Weaker Armour).

But then again - as long as it works and you are having fun, go with rangers!
Enjoy it.

Xsiriss · Feb 22, 2010, 02:23 PM // 14:23

Cringe...please, please learn the mechanics of guild wars (look at builds on pvxwiki etc.) then try making your own.

vBeryl · Feb 22, 2010, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Lol E/R, D/R and Mo/R heroes is the new wammo now right?

Srsly it takes under a day to get the 3 necro heroes, buy the skill unlock packs and then run discordway on them.

If you don't want to do sabway or discordway, use Vekk as e-Warder, MOX Battery and WoH monk on ogden, this will allow leeway that is close to sabway.

Kenzo Skunk · Feb 22, 2010, 03:28 PM // 15:28

Have you tried this in hard mode?

Lord Dagon · Feb 22, 2010, 07:59 PM // 19:59

i dont know.. it really seems like a bad idea.
the build sounds ok( i guess) but if you have all those heros use rangers.... eles, dervs and monk heros using bows... /cringe

tlee · Feb 22, 2010, 09:33 PM // 21:33

haha.. i wanted 3 rangers, but didn't have time to obtain all those, but vekk, ogden and mox worked out very well... They actually do not die as much as i thought. They never had more than 15% DP in missions or just killing mobs for kicks. Try it.. If i had them as their original class, they actually die a lot more. Mobs tend to always go for the healers and casters...

The pets did all the distracting most of the time

I also did an all warriors (me being W/N and the rest W/M) build with well of power and well of blood. Worked out pretty nicely too.

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Originally Posted by Kenzo Skunk

Have you tried this in hard mode?

not yet, but i will...

as soon as i beat factions.

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Originally Posted by Xsiriss

Cringe...please, please learn the mechanics of guild wars (look at builds on pvxwiki etc.) then try making your own.

hey, just because you don't like the builds doesn't mean it doesn't work.... it's a weird build but it seems to work so far..

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Originally Posted by vBeryl

Lol E/R, D/R and Mo/R heroes is the new wammo now right?

Srsly it takes under a day to get the 3 necro heroes, buy the skill unlock packs and then run discordway on them.

If you don't want to do sabway or discordway, use Vekk as e-Warder, MOX Battery and WoH monk on ogden, this will allow leeway that is close to sabway.

thanks.. i was reading about the nec discordway and looks cool. Gonna try it sometime.. Thanks for the tip...

actually, i was having a hard time beating the missions using henchies and my heroes as their original class.... maybe i am just a noob as using a Sin, but damn, i get own so easily in PVE...Quick damage, but a few chops and slashes from lvl 20+ warrior mobs and I'm dead. Yes, I have the max 70 armor on with +10 armor insignias on all the pieces. The Sin actually makes a good ranger

I'm new to factions and nightfalls. Been playing prohecies for a while and then took a vacation for over 2 yrs and just got back about 2 months ago

Kenzo Skunk · Feb 22, 2010, 10:30 PM // 22:30

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Originally Posted by tlee

The Sin actually makes a good ranger

True, critical barrage sin is an excellent damage dealer, plus, you stay out of the actual fray most of the time. Someone mentioned three necro heroes, which is still the best option for pve, be it discordway or sabway. If you have some kind of pet fetish, you can make all three of them /R.

tlee · Feb 23, 2010, 04:04 AM // 04:04

now my problem is finding necro heroes in factions and nightfalls.. don't really feel like playing EOTN again to get the nec heroes..

can i turn my heroes now to just necs and still be good with the discordway build?

MasterSasori · Feb 23, 2010, 05:01 AM // 05:01

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Originally Posted by tlee

now my problem is finding necro heroes in factions and nightfalls.. don't really feel like playing EOTN again to get the nec heroes..

can i turn my heroes now to just necs and still be good with the discordway build?

The problem with heroes is that they run out of energy hence why ppl use necros - soul reaping. There is no point to turn any other professions into necros.

Kenzo Skunk · Feb 23, 2010, 12:50 PM // 12:50

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Originally Posted by tlee

now my problem is finding necro heroes in factions and nightfalls.. don't really feel like playing EOTN again to get the nec heroes..

can i turn my heroes now to just necs and still be good with the discordway build?

There are no heroes in Factions. Only in Nightfall (Master of whispers and Olias) and in Eotn (Livia). The main point in using necro heroes is soul reaping, which is the necro`s primary attribute. You could make your heroes /N, but without soul reaping and consequently without almost limitless energy. What i would do right now if i were you, is to make Vekk minion master. He has most energy and will give you nice exploding flesh wall.

HigherMinion · Feb 23, 2010, 01:52 PM // 13:52

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Originally Posted by Kenzo Skunk

There are no heroes in Factions. Only in Nightfall (Master of whispers and Olias) and in Eotn (Livia). The main point in using necro heroes is soul reaping, which is the necro`s primary attribute. You could make your heroes /N, but without soul reaping and consequently without almost limitless energy. What i would do right now if i were you, is to make Vekk minion master. He has most energy and will give you nice exploding flesh wall.

No, don't make Vekk a Minion Master; let him ER, as that is the task at which he will excel most.

Kenzo Skunk · Feb 23, 2010, 06:44 PM // 18:44

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Originally Posted by HigherMinion

No, don't make Vekk a Minion Master; let him ER, as that is the task at which he will excel most.

What for? Healing? He already has Ogden, which is more than enough heal - he`s still playing in normal mode. Slap WoH hybrid build on him and that`s enough. Minion wall is more useful option in my opinion.

Xenomortis · Feb 23, 2010, 07:02 PM // 19:02

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Originally Posted by Kenzo Skunk

What for? Healing? He already has Ogden, which is more than enough heal - he`s still playing in normal mode. Slap WoH hybrid build on him and that`s enough. Minion wall is more useful option in my opinion.

Vekk > Ogden for that sort of defense and even in NM, there's little reason to run with the inferior option. Although you won't appreciate the prots as much, the heals will suffice until the prots begin to matter.

Besides, getting Olias is trivial if he took a look at the wikis and it's best to use a Necromancer hero for minions.

Kenzo Skunk · Feb 24, 2010, 04:59 PM // 16:59

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

Vekk > Ogden for that sort of defense and even in NM, there's little reason to run with the inferior option. Although you won't appreciate the prots as much, the heals will suffice until the prots begin to matter.

Besides, getting Olias is trivial if he took a look at the wikis and it's best to use a Necromancer hero for minions.

I`m not going into any kind of argument about which is better ER ele or WoH monk hybrid. I know what i know and have experienced and that is what i wrote in previous posts. This guy is a new player and from that perspective, it is much easier for him to take Ogden as a healer, and Vekk as minion master.

As for Olias, he has yet to unlock him.